Student: I believe in that we have a chance to make the world a better place.
Teacher: Believe what you want and see it as a make-believe.
Student: But when I'm really working hard for something it will be happening.
Teacher: It may or may not. But you don't decide what is happening.
Student: How do you know? I'm not in charge of what is happening?
Teacher: You're in charge of what the happening means to you. If you think it's meaningless, then it's meaningless. If you think it's useful, then it's useful. Again, it's all a make-believe.
Student: So I'm just deciding what something means?
Teacher: Yes. It is the way it is. What you're deciding about it, if it has meaning or not, that's up to you.
Student: Would it be better to not have any meaning at all?
Teacher: This is again up to you. If you believe that having no meaning is the way to go, here you are again, following your make-believe of not needing any interpretation at all.
Student: But then everybody is partaking in this make-believing.
Teacher: That's the way it is. You may enjoy this or not. And again, if you think it's not good enjoying it, then it's not good enjoying it. If you think the stories are great and fun, then they're great and fun.
Student: So this adding of a meaning is naturally happening?
Teacher: It's naturally happening. And it's also possible that there is no meaning happening. By that I don't mean not to decide having no meaning. But to be content with the void of not knowing if there's going to be a decision about having a meaning or not. Since this is a natural way that consciousness is unfolding, there's not really anything to do to come to a decision. It's naturally unfolding and you can enjoy the show, even if you don't know if there's a meaning or not.
Student: Everybody's make-believing?
Teacher: It's the way that consciousness is moving. Just love it, believe what you want, but see what you're make-believing is being made up by yourself.